* User Info

 
 
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

* BlueDemonsNation Twitter

Author Topic: A 4th Year for DL . . .  (Read 10127 times)

Offline kman999

  • 3 Star Prospect
  • ***
  • Posts: 543
  • Karma: +11/-4
  • Delta Tau Name: Hoover
A 4th Year for DL . . .
« on: January 17, 2017, 01:19:27 PM »
Understanding that DL's 4th year may already be guaranteed, what would it take for YOU to give DL a fourth year?  Is there a benchmark in year 3 that he has to hit?  Wins/Losses? Post-season? Subjective barometers?  Do you give him year 4 regardless?

Would like to hear your guys' thoughts.  For me -- 14-15 wins.  I know that is absurdly low, but it is something that no DePaul coach has been able to do since . . . . I was a freshman at DePaul, 2006-2007.


Offline lovethedrake

  • 2 Star Prospect
  • **
  • Posts: 355
  • Karma: +5/-5
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2017, 01:40:38 PM »
15 Wins and a great recruiting class coming in.

Offline Ciepierball

  • Powered by Yatta!
  • 5 Star Prospect
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,527
  • Karma: +83/-54
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 02:08:01 PM »
Over .500.  Not at .500, but over .500.  No reason why we can't do that.
"In life if you don't perform at things you're expected to perform at, you are fired." - Jerry Wainwright after Alabama State game.

Offline mrap24

  • 1 Star Prospect
  • *
  • Posts: 160
  • Karma: +4/-0
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 02:23:16 PM »
minimum 6 BE wins.  I dont care about winning games vs a ultra soft non con slate, its all about the BE.  if we hit a 13th BE loss next season, pack your bags immediately

Offline VUWildcat2103

  • Administrator
  • First Team - All Big East
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,114
  • Karma: +73/-54
  • Delta Tau Name: Otter
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 03:47:25 PM »
9 conference wins;

Anything less is a disgrace, when you have two highly touted transfers in Max and Austin, a special player in Eli Cain, a probable 4 star had he not got hurt guy in Cyrus, and then 2 top 100 caliber recruits in Roberts and Butz.

However, if these players are overhyped, and the truth is a bit less, than i say 7 conference wins.

Offline Hayes-Healy Superstar

  • Inventor of the Fist Bump
  • Global Moderator
  • 3 Star Prospect
  • *****
  • Posts: 651
  • Karma: +27/-7
  • Delta Tau Name: Bluto
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2017, 03:50:18 PM »
16-14 and legit top 100 recruits coming in.  No less than that.
Smart men learn from their mistakes, wise men learn from the mistakes of others.

Offline lake county fan

  • 4 Star Prospect
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,055
  • Karma: +16/-5
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2017, 04:40:37 PM »
At least 500

Offline hbomb

  • 1 Star Prospect
  • *
  • Posts: 80
  • Karma: +5/-0
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2017, 04:44:06 PM »
.750 winning % in the Non-Con and 9-9 in the Big East.  He had the first two years to show incremental improvement and he absolutely botched it.  It's pure insanity to keep a coach that 1. doesn't have a history of rebuilding programs 2. takes over for a coach that got 6 BE wins, for more than 3 years if it takes him 3 years to meet his predecessor's level of awfulness. 

Matching OP's 6 wins in year 3 is absolutely unacceptable.  He should have matched that year 1 (if was actually a decent coach and all evidence points the contrary). 

Offline erbsademon

  • 3 Star Prospect
  • ***
  • Posts: 477
  • Karma: +17/-19
  • #FireJLP
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 10:51:15 AM »
I think a minimum of .500 in conference next year or I'd fire him.  Unlikely as it is winning 4 conf games next year would be enough for JLP to keep him on.  That being said, I bet JLP gave DL an extension after the win over Providence.  Hopefully the DPU president's search committee hires a competent president this time and the new prez fires JLP and hires a good AD.  The university is in shambles right now, missed enrollment targets for 5 consecutive years. 
#FireJLP

Offline lake county fan

  • 4 Star Prospect
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,055
  • Karma: +16/-5
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 02:58:53 PM »
It would be great if they bring in a president who is very sportminded

Offline lake county fan

  • 4 Star Prospect
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,055
  • Karma: +16/-5
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 03:01:25 PM »
I am not sure what the rules are but I would not want a priest for president

Offline Depressed

  • 2 Star Prospect
  • **
  • Posts: 321
  • Karma: +9/-12
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 08:39:42 PM »
He'll be fired by than , I'll be dead and a Old ass Ben Howland will bring in a top 15 recruiting class

Offline DPU70

  • Second Team - All Big East
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,226
  • Karma: +83/-43
  • Delta Tau Name: Redenbacher
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2017, 11:26:31 AM »
I think he is already guaranteed a 4.  And I, unfortunately, don't have a say in this matter.
I did expect more from him then op's final year.

Offline Griffin11

  • 1 Star Prospect
  • *
  • Posts: 120
  • Karma: +5/-2
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2017, 09:21:23 AM »
Honestly, I don't care when DL is fired.  What I do care about is when we will have a competent AD.  Then I will car about hiring the next coach.  We're already on strike three with this current regime and I have no confidence in her ability to bring in the next guy.

Offline DPU70

  • Second Team - All Big East
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,226
  • Karma: +83/-43
  • Delta Tau Name: Redenbacher
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2017, 05:19:11 PM »
DL will last as long as JLP does.  I posted that before.

And, I bet Sr does too.

Offline John92

  • 3 Star Prospect
  • ***
  • Posts: 472
  • Karma: +7/-4
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2017, 09:05:08 AM »
not sure of the schedule.  That said the non-con looks like it has 4-5 real teams.  Maybe go a minimum of 7-6 non con and win 6 BE games.  So 13 for a bubble based on an overall evaluation and 14 or more is safe.   Obviously you want more in year 3 but given the situation.

Offline VUWildcat2103

  • Administrator
  • First Team - All Big East
  • *****
  • Posts: 6,114
  • Karma: +73/-54
  • Delta Tau Name: Otter
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2017, 08:51:27 AM »
not sure of the schedule.  That said the non-con looks like it has 4-5 real teams.  Maybe go a minimum of 7-6 non con and win 6 BE games.  So 13 for a bubble based on an overall evaluation and 14 or more is safe.   Obviously you want more in year 3 but given the situation.
Given the situation? 3 years is enough time to assess a coach based upon their record.

Offline mrap24

  • 1 Star Prospect
  • *
  • Posts: 160
  • Karma: +4/-0
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2017, 10:57:39 AM »
not sure of the schedule.  That said the non-con looks like it has 4-5 real teams.  Maybe go a minimum of 7-6 non con and win 6 BE games.  So 13 for a bubble based on an overall evaluation and 14 or more is safe.   Obviously you want more in year 3 but given the situation.
Given the situation? 3 years is enough time to assess a coach based upon their record.

what is the situation?  who shoulders the "blame" and what does it say that you have to completely overturn your staff after 2 seasons?  who does that lay on and say about the short and long term stability of the program?

Offline Big Kid

  • 4 Star Prospect
  • ****
  • Posts: 873
  • Karma: +29/-8
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2017, 07:33:34 PM »
I would lay most of the blamethe feet at the incompetent AD and former President who got yet and gave yet another contract extension for basic dereliction of duty if we believe the rumors which seem true considering all that has gone on this offseason.

If the rumor is true ( and this point no reason to deny) then you'll see Leitao here a 4th and possibly 5th year as well. Excuse for failure will be "tough" non-con schedule is only preparing for us for 2018 and when the most heralded recruit in 10 years comes aboard. Even if she's replaced at some point it's not happening soon and the new AD will have to get his/her bearings around them righted before they can do an all out search. We are stuck with this guy for the next two seasons at least.

Offline edr18

  • Stats Crew
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: A 4th Year for DL . . .
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2017, 12:09:56 PM »

I expect less I guess but a .500 season would be enough for me. He inheriated one of the worst power or mid major programs in the nation. He has done a good job raising the talent level in two years and it will take another two to see the results if they come.

I think the schedule is pretty tough and 13 to 15 wins should be expected. Also, possibly the two most talented players we have (recruiting rankings out of high school) are a year away from playing.

Yes, I know, I hoped for the results above last year.

Just my $0.02.

 


* Blue Demons Nation Scholarship Chart

2020-21 2021-22 2022-23
1 Jaylen Butz Javon Freeman-Liberty Markese Jacobs
2 Charlie Moore Darious Hall Oscar Lopez Jr
3 Brian Patrick Courvoisier McCauley Nick Ongenda
4 Pauly Paulicap Markese Jacobs Romeo Weems
5 Ray Salnave Oscar Lopez Jr Kobe Elvis
6 Javon Freeman-Liberty Nick Ongenda Ahamad Bynum
7 Darious Hall Romeo Weems Keon Edwards
8 Courvoisier McCauley Kobe Elvis Brett Hardt Jr.
9 Markese Jacobs Ahamad Bynum David Jones
10 Oscar Lopez Jr Keon Edwards Kok Yat
11 Nick Ongenda Brett Hardt Jr.  
12 Romeo Weems David Jones  
13 Kobe Elvis Kok Yat  
       
  Senior
  Junior
  Sophomore
  Freshman

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2021, SimplePortal