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Author Topic: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)  (Read 16373 times)

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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2016, 12:36:23 PM »
Mr moderator coming for some with facts is just that, don't make it a crime when your letting others blast away......  tks
I have no clue what you mean by this.

You really must not know this site too well. It is the epitome of allowing people to blast away. And if the blast away statement is utterly stupid, the person who blasted in the first place is in line from getting blasted by others on this site.

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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2016, 12:41:36 PM »
I really don't mind it at all but since he is generally the cause of a lot of posters grief, I have no problem coming to his defense :)   and believe it or not I agree with some post, he does need to play smarter and have better shot selection at times, but just like SC, Butler, Seton Hall, Gtown,  when he is on this team is totally different so I hope like a few that he continues to grow as a player under DL.

Truth be told, I had to go in on Ciepierballs mess, just because for someone to bash one player on a team is unfair to him and fans that god forbid respect his opinion, and I like to talk smack too... lol   so its all good. 

We can break down the game, the defense, offense, coaches, recruiting etc.  even DW if you want....... :) :) :) :)

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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2016, 02:02:06 PM »
I understand Munch. I probably align more with you than most. I like Darrick's game, and his potential. When I saw people say Wood was the reason DePaul lost, I laughed. Without him first half, DePaul would have been down. He probably hurt more than helped second half, but that goes for most every player who saw time in the second half. But easy to pick out a scapegoat.

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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2016, 10:44:16 AM »
I haven’t had time to respond to this until now, but wanted to explain some of my thoughts, and stress others.

Munch, I agree with you that it’s just not one player that is creating issues, but I think that lovethedrake said it best: “Wood gets attention for bad play because he oozes with talent and it frustrates the hell out of DePaul fans when the talent is not channeled into team play.”  Wood has a skill-set that is needed on this team, and no one else really has on this team.  He has that “burst” that he can get into the lane, great rise on his shot to take midrange jumpers (the one part of his game that I love), and athleticism that at times is eye-popping.  However, so much of it goes to waste because he has that “me first” attitude.  The last guy who had such great attributes, but had the same attitude, was Dar Tucker.  Is Wood as bad in that sense as Dar?  No.  But I see some of the same things that scares me for this team to progress.  Just some examples:

In one game, two times, he wasn’t looking at the ball and the ball was thrown away.  You blame the other players for passing it to him when he wasn’t looking, but the blame shouldn’t be passed off.  Was he setting a screen away from the ball?  That’s the only time your eyes shouldn’t be on the ball.  And twice in one game?

So many times during the game I see multiple teammates yelling at him on offense, and I see the coaches doing the same thing.  That means he’s going rogue, he’s doing his own thing, and when players do that, others just stand still.  That goes back to the days of Purnell where it was streetball.  There are too many times he tries to do it all himself.  Yes, other players do this too, and I call them out too (ie. Garrett), however in the 16 minutes a game Wood is out there, he’s putting his head down and doing his own thing too much for my liking.  Maybe my opinion and not yours.

I’m big on bench attitude…just don’t like his.  Some people don’t care about this, but just one of my pet peeves.

Yes, DePaul runs Horns a ton, but so do all college programs.  It’s pro-style, and it’s extremely effective, especially when you have bigs that can shoot.  And while I think Woods has the best attributes to be on the top of horns instead of Billy, I don’t think his IQ is there because I don’t think he’d make the right read.  Hopefully this changes because it would make the play more effective, but right now Billy makes better reads, and I think Woods is more dangerous on the baseline as a shooter and penetrator.

When you take on a college scholarship, you’re getting a lot of great things, but some bad things as well, which is criticism.  He chose to play in front of fans, and with that comes scrutiny.  He’s getting it.  We expect something more from him.  That’s what I’m saying.
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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2016, 10:59:44 AM »
Ciep, with the passage of 5 weeks or so since the original post to this thread, any updated thoughts? 

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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2016, 01:41:55 PM »
Ciep, with the passage of 5 weeks or so since the original post to this thread, any updated thoughts?

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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2016, 11:01:25 PM »
Excellent Griff!!!!

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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2016, 02:42:34 PM »
Just getting to this now...have been in bed for over a week with pneumonia.  Getting some life back in my now, so will respond to this thread on what I think so far.

First I want to call out the players that I have been impressed with thus far.  First, Myke Henry is having a great year.  Shooting the ball extremely well, not being selfish, rebounding the ball, and playing "better" defense (still not good).  Second, Eli Cain has been outstanding as a freshmen.  His penetrating ability is outstanding for his age/position, and has a chance to be something very good at DePaul.  He's not Sammy Mejia, but he is Sammy-like, and able to play multiple positions.  Lastly, Rashaun Stimage has been great this year.  The box score doesn't keep track of what he does, but his energy is great out there.  What's sad is only one of these three guys comes back.

Second, I need to call out Billy Garrett Jr.  You are NOT a star PG when you are averaging 13.7 points and 3.8 assists and only shooting 42% from the field and 27% from the arc.  It's almost like it's PR coming from somewhere to pump him up, because he's the most unimpressive "star" DePaul has ever had.  His IQ is average for a PG, he makes selfish plays, and people always used to talk about his defense coming into DePaul....why haven't we seen it?

Third, Tommie on offense is an asset for a pick-and-pop big.  He's worthless down low, and while he's a very good passer, he's not a willing one.  On defense Tommie doesn't care.  It's 0% effort, he doesn't rotate, he doesn't talk, and he doesn't play aggressive.  He can be so good, but he's so disappointing.

Fourth, I'm still firm on what I think of Wood and his game.  Pure talent, I don't think anyone would argue that he's the best on the squad.  But he's pure "me"....and I'm sure people will say others are like this too.  I know.  And I called them out too.

Lastly, the coaches were given crap.  I would have gotten rid of everyone, but you know that isn't the Catholic way.  I know these coaches from other schools, so I know what they are capable of, and trust in them.  Next year is the year to judge pure coaching and recruiting.....right now incomplete.
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Re: Ciepierball's Thoughts Thru The Non-Conference (Long)
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2016, 08:08:05 PM »
After the non-conference, wanted to get my thoughts out there.  Lots to read below, but I'm hoping you guys respond and let me know your thoughts.

Am I Happy Thus Far? - I said from the beginning that this year was more about developing a culture and putting in a system that you'll use for years to come, rather one that just works with what you have.  However, thru this I wanted to see us win some games, and show promise for the future.  So, am I happy thus far?  Let me first walk you through my thoughts...we are 6-6.  Our losses are to Penn State (very solid team), South Carolina (undefeated right now), Florida State (consistent NCAA team from a power conference), Arkansas Little-Rock (at the time #1 defensive team in the country and was undefeated until yesterday), Stanford (good team but on the road), and Northwestern (a very good team that we should have beaten).  We didn't lose to any chumps like we have in the past, and we beat the #20 team in the country in George Washington, which hasn't happened since 2008.  I would have said I would be super happy if we were 7-5, which meant we won two big games, however I thought that Northwestern game was virtually a win, as we outplayed them, so I would say I'm not super happy, but I'm happy, however I'm extremely excited about the future.

The Kids Are Starting To Buy In - A few days ago I was talking on the phone to OldSchoolDemon, and I told him "the Northwestern game was a game where the kids I believe found their roles".  When you find your role, and you're comfortable in your role, that means you've bought in to what the coaches are preaching.  I really do think the kids bought in, and you can see from the bench that the kids were so excited...even the ones that weren't playing.  The last two games you can see that players are playing differently than they have in the past, where they are playing more inside their comfort zones versus trying to do too much.  I'll get into that later, but it shows they are buying into what the coaches are preaching.

Are The Coaches Effectively Teaching The Kids? - This was a debate on this board as early as yesterday morning.  Many people have different opinions, and before I give mine, I want to point a few things out:

- These kids were not recruited by this staff, but rather the previous.  Gazi and Scott are the only true recruits that this staff has gotten on their own.  The rest are leftovers from the previous regime.

- None of these kids were really recruited by our coaches at their previous schools.  That says something.

- You can't each a 5 year old how to drive a car.  You can't teach a dophin to jog.  Well, these kids have low basketball IQ's, and like I said, these aren't the kids that they would have hand-picked to run what they want to.  But with that being said, look at Myke Henry this year versus last, especially on defense, where he's improved alot.  Also his shot selection.  How about Aaron Simpson, especially moving without the ball and being more aggressive.  The rebounding of Tommie (which I still think needs to be better), but it has improved.  The last two games you can just tell that the team's identity has changed, and they are playing much harder, stronger, and more aggressive.  That comes from the teaching that's going on behind closed doors.  Also, minus Woods, our shot selection this year, especially over the last couple of games, is so much better than previous years.  Again, teaching and coaching.  I love what the coaches are doing, and impressive for what they were dealt with.

Our Seniors Are Our MVP's - I've been so impressed with our seniors, as they are playing like true seniors.  Just want to call them out as to why.

Molinari - Watch him on the bench.  This guy is 100% leadership, and it really shows during timeouts when they are in huddles.  I hope they retain him as a grad assistant next year. 

Simpson - I didn't think much of him going into the year, but he's having what I call a Kerry Hartfield-like presence on the team.  He's great from the outside, and for being so small, is so aggressive on both ends of the floor, and surprisingly on the glass.

Henry - Our best offensive player, and has really expanded his game to the dribble drive this year.  His midrange game is unstoppable, and his offensive rebounding has really been key for us this year.

Stimage - He's my team MVP.  The stats don't really show what he means to this team, but he plays with such aggressiveness, passion, is such a great asset on defensive, and overall his personality is contagious to the rest of the team.  Love what he brings!

Is Garrett Finding His Inner Sammy Mejia? - I do know for a fact that when the staff was coming in, they saw Garrett as a guy who can play the role Sammy did for Leitao for two years.  Same size, same position, and many of the same skills....it's just that you need to have a kid who's been playing one way for so long to change his game a bit.  I saw so much Sammy in Garrett last night.  Remember...Leitao used to post Sammy up alot, as well as have him work the middle of the lane for 10-12 footers.  That is Garrett's game!  If he's able to get into the lane and pull up like he did, it only creates more opportunities's for others, gets higher percentage shots (which he needs), as well as opens up his perimeter game, where now he's given some space.  Also loved how they had him flash into the high post at times against the zone.  Such a great idea by the coaching staff!  I haven't been a fan of Garrett lately, but that's because of the way he played before.  If the takes this role on, he becomes a weapon!  And it's evident that the coaching staff is trying to have him buy into this, because twice after timeouts, Leitao said "YOU SEE?  YOU SEE?"  And Billy was shaking his said, smiling, and laughing.  Maybe his eyes are open.

Hamilton Is What He Is - People are so hard on Tommie, because they expect so much out of him.  My dad last night was railing into him, and he was like "That kid just sucks".  Then I pointed this out: He's a bench player that averages 10 points, 7 rebounds, and shoots over 50% from the floor.  Is that bad?  We need to forget about him being ranked Top 20 when he was 14 years old.  History showed that this was a horrible ranking.  We need to remember he was unranked, with only two offers, and we got him.  He's a stretch 4 (no, not a 5, a stretch 4) who is a bench player and provides very good scoring, defensive rebounding, and size.  That's all.  For that, I'm not complaining.

Darrick Wood Has To Go - There are 100 reasons why I don't like this kid.  But let's go over just a few of them:

- Yesterday he was pulled out, and we are winning, and he's pouting, and acting like we are losing by 30.  Then in the line after the game, he's sitting there mumbling all pissed off.  YOU JUST BEAT A RANKED TEAM YOU JACKASS!

- His knees are 100% shot.  He doesn't practice every practice, but somehow he's always ready for games.  Seems like selective pain to me.  If your knees suck, hang it up.

- Defensively he stays in front of his man, but he lets them move forward all the time.  What's the point of playing defense if you let them advance all the time?  It's called laziness.

- Offensively he has no clue what's going on.  Watch when he's out there, and the rest of the team on the floor is always yelling at him because he made the wrong cut, or is deviating from what was called.  Then when you're playing on offense, unless you're doing a down pick, you always have an eye on the ball.  TWICE yesterday he took his eye off the ball, and twice they were turnovers.  WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU LOOKING AT DARRICK?!?!  So, he isn't paying attention without the ball, just imagine when he has the ball......that's why he never finds open teammates.

Darrick, if you read this board, let me say that you are glad you didn't have me as a coach, because I would make your life in practice a living hell, not play you, and then kick you off the team at the end of the year.

My Recruiting Strategy For Next Year - Right now we have 12 committed players for next season, meaning we have one slot left to fill.  This is what I would do, and I'll do it in a granular way:

- With the open scholarship, I would fill it with a change-of-pace PG.  I think we are seeing what good a speedster would do on this squad.  It would open things up, and provide something we lack off the bench.

- Get rid of Develle Phillips.  He's obviously not the right fit, so do the kid a favor and have him go elsewhere.  In his place, get a Juco big man, much like Marlon Jones.  You have a void with Stimage leaving, and we need someone who will rebound, defend, and if they can score, bonus!

- Get rid of Oumar Barry.  He's another guy who obviously the coaches aren't a huge fan of, and bring in a 5th year big man.  A guy who say average 6points and 5 rebounds at Eastern Illinois would be more productive than Barry would next season, and he would give flexibility for the 2017 class.

- Get rid of Darrick Wood.  He's a cancer to this team.  In his place, I would get a 5th year guard, and ONLY get a 5th year guard.  There are a ton of these kids out there, and as long as they were somewhat productive, and can hit an outside shot, they can help us, and still give us flexibility for 2017.

- Then in 2017 you have 6 open spots that you can get in guys that THIS staff wants.  And the new arena will be a good tool to use for that class as well.

revisionist history is great.  reading this now, i laughed b/c almost everything isnt wrong.  anyone who is happy should be ashamed.  no one has found a role and there is no cohesion and the team is getting worse

 


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